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  Muslims Influenced by WBTS

  by cameo-d in

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  scientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.

  several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.

  there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  Bud! There's nothing to disprove. By the Neptunes beard, we are in full agreement. I'm glad to see your thinking now.
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  Muslims Influenced by WBTS

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  scientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.

  several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.

  there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.

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  What's the matter. No ones got any balls? Now Octarine. You can take your little insult back. Lets see your genious! Rub me the wrong way, and I'll take your intellectual liver out, and have it with fava beans.

  You wanna know about similarities. Here's one for you. Islam is like the witnesses in theocratic warfare. " Lieing for the cause" That's what witnesses do,and that's what Islam does. I don't know if I am spelling this correctly,but in arabic if is called tawqfique. That means,when you look around,and see nothing but violence created by Muslims, your brain takes the information and says " Wow, what a violent religion!" but when you ask a Muslim, They will say, My brother, this is a religion of peace and love. They keep doing this until they are literally giving it to you up the ass! Wake the fuck UP morons!!

  In theocratic warfare, they also have the Hadithe. This book is secondary to the Koran. It's a get out of jail free card. The Imams,are very careful to hide all the ugly misdeeds of Mohamed, and this little book, helps to cloud the issues. Kinda like the contradictions in the bible, where you can read anything you want into it.

  When the pope was going to visit Turkey and quoted an ancient,in saying that Islam was spread with the sword. There was outrage among the Muslims. Not because this was a lie. Just because you arn't suppose to let that absolute fact,enter your consciousness. The intimidation is just a form of dumming you down.

  The witnesses have the same dumming down. Shunning, which is very hurtful and abusive is called a loving action to bring you back to the fake love of the Org.

  So the big differtence is, between the two. They both get their pound of flesh,but one is more violent than the other.
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  Muslims Influenced by WBTS

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  scientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.

  several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.

  there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  Cameo. This Identity of Islam is "The Nation of Islam." it is a political movement and is deeply intertwined as part of the religion. This is why many Muslims are incapable of integration. It must be considered as a major difference from most other religions with the agenda of global domination. In the here and now. If you overlook this, you might as well try to discuss Nazism as as a social club. The implications are staggering.

  What do you think it has in common. Get serious dude! Take a look around the globe. Fighting in Pakistan, Fighting in the Sudan, Fighting in Thailand, riots in Brittain, riots in France, riots in Ireland, riots in Sweeden, riots in Norway, riots in Holland. Fighting in Bosnia, fighting in Chechnya, and maybe a few hundred other areas. Open your eyes. How many religions freak out over a cartoon and give death threats. What other religion abuses women and gives them no rights. It is a religion of intimidation, fear and coerscion. Have you been living in some other dimension? Cutting hands off for stealing. Having multiple wives and executions for homosexuals. JESUS CHRIST!! Do you see a difference!!
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  Muslims Influenced by WBTS

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  scientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.

  several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.

  there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  My opinion is that for the most part, aside from having in common the desire to dominate the globe theocratically, (one wants to do it with the sword, and the other with magazines}.

  I'm not a religios scholar, but they are both high control groups or even cults. The fact that neither, will bend in their doctrine, means that change and flexibility for both religions, is slow, if not non non-existant. There will never be any mergers or compromise.

  If an assimilation ever did take place, I would have to say, that the one with force would probably be the winner. In actual fact. The Jehovah's Witness doctrine, derrives more, from old testament and montheistic worship of Jehovah. What the witnesses are, is the very latest form of Judaism.

  Everyone knows, Islam despises the Jews, so I would have to say that would mean certain death for witnesses as well, if push ever came to shove.

  Just to show you how different Islam really is, and has nothing to do with the roots of Judaism, check this clip out. As I say, I'm no scholar of this religion but it does not merge with anyone. Islam is a political movement on earth. The witnesses is a theocratic movement for a future government, that has nothing to do with this world we're living in right now.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1743mRxr7lo True roots os Islam
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  Muslims Influenced by WBTS

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  scientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.

  several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.

  there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  sorry for going off topic Cameo. I tried to edit, but to no avail. I get carried away, sometimes because to be quite honest, I am fed up with seeing what Islam, is doing to the world, on the net. Every day in copiuos amounts, I see this. I was was truly efected, by the Geert Wilders film Fitna, with the merciless beheadings and shutdown of free speech. The History of Islam is grusome, past and present and I feel people must say more about it. Especially the moderate Muslims. I didn't mean to take over, and shit on your thread.

  I have nothing against black folks either, I just find it puzzling why a black man would be a part of that and give the white man crap for putting him in slavery, when the history of Islam for blacks was nothing but slavery. You should see the clip of how outraged the blacks were in Zanzibar and what they did. We get called racist, and they are killing white farmers left right and center in Africa. I just find it upsetting. They are valid questions and it is a real situation that I'm sure other black folks are angry at too. I hope!
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  I'm not tech savy, soooo.....

  by Tyrone van leyen in

  1. jw
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  i have a few questions about what this actually means.

  the shutting down of jwd.

  will we be given a day and hour almost like a countdown?

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  Tyrone van leyen

  http://jwsupportforum.ulmb.com/index.php. this is a good link. Thanx Summer
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  I'm not tech savy, soooo.....

  by Tyrone van leyen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a few questions about what this actually means.

  the shutting down of jwd.

  will we be given a day and hour almost like a countdown?

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  Tyrone van leyen

  Thanx Sylvia, you're very sweet! I always remember those that treat me with dignity. I didn't mention you in my earlier post, Just as I'm sure, there are others I missed, but I do have high regard for you. Lets hope we get some answers!
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  It seems I was right all along.

  by searcher in

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  over the years i have posted many times, in many places that i was convinced there is an element working for the gb to chase posters away from ex jw sites by making life uncomfortable for them, even to get sites themselves to close down.. having seen many posters leave various sites, most of the sites give up and close down, it seems they are winning.. now this one, the premier site, is closing.. .

  so sad..

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  Tyrone van leyen

  That was a brilliant comment WAC!
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  I'm not tech savy, soooo.....

  by Tyrone van leyen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a few questions about what this actually means.

  the shutting down of jwd.

  will we be given a day and hour almost like a countdown?

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  Tyrone van leyen

  I have a few questions about what this actually means. The shutting down of Jwd. Will we be given a day and hour almost like a countdown? Will all the incredible insights and knowledge be lost to time, save for those that have had the presence of mind to save what was dear to them. Are we really starting over? If someone wanted to change their identity after the site closes is that still posssible? Is it all lost or just hanging in space ready to be accessed, but not involved in discussion. Forgive my ignorance. What site would be reckoned as closest to the energy and setup of this board? I ask, because this is the gold standard without question.
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  LET'S HAVE SOME FUN...

  by Quentin in

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  post pictures that are funny, touching, or made an impression on you....i was going to use this one as my new avatar...it was photoshopped by a friend.

  some friend, eh?.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  This one cracks me up every time Quentin!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXV_cHCOck&feature=related Mugabe the ape.